Vodafone, otros estafadores más…

Vodafone = Inútiles, Ladrones, Estafadores, etc…  Vodafone Ladrones

Como cliente de Vodafone desde hace unos 14 años (si, desde que era Airtel, allá por el 1998-1999) siendo durante muchos años cliente Platino, y pagando todas y cada una de mis facturas religiosamente (muchas de bastante dinero para un particular) y habiendo trabajado como técnico de Telecomunicaciones con varias compañías, conozco bien el tema y el mundillo y creo que tengo todas las razones del mundo para poderme quejar a gusto, y como parece ser que mi opinión les importa poco, procedo a ponerlo aquí en mi blog para deleite de todos (lamento las molestias de mis pobres lectores).

Evidentemente antes trabajaban bien, si no, no habría durado tantos años, pero llevan unos 4 años empeorando cada vez más su servicio, Ahora mi problema viene por el ADSL de 6 Megas que hace 1 año me ofrecieron en varias ocasiones y con varias ofertas, pero me parecía demasiado caro, (los móviles ya se los quite precisamente por su mal servicio de atención al cliente, que últimamente solo me arreglaba los problemas en bajas) al final y con el rollo de que era cliente me ofrecieron un descuento del 50% sobre el ADSL sin mantenimiento de línea y más llamadas, lo que con el IVA venía a ser unos 20-22 Euros al mes, descuento que se suponía que era de por vida… o mejorable (llamo mas bien poco desde el fijo, otra cosa que no me interesa mucho). El caso es que tras varios problemas con el router y parece ser que debido a que me aplicaron un descuento especial para compensar los reiterados fallos, resulta que ahora parece ser que al aplicar ese descuento temporal han borrado mi descuento inicial y al terminarse el mes gratis por las incidencias, ahora ya no existe constancia de descuento ninguno, y por lo tanto me están cobrando unos 40-44 Euros al mes…(por 6 Megas!!!) desde julio. Por más que les he llamado no ha habido forma, su única explicación es que no tienen constancia de que yo tuviera ningún descuento y por tanto no lo aplican ni hay forma de solucionarlo. De hecho la ante última vez que llamé me dieron un número de incidencia y me dijeron que lo estudiarían y me llamarían al día siguiente (era viernes, ok, esperemos al lunes…). Una semana después no me habían llamado, los llamé yo, la chica pasó de mi totalmente y me volvió a decir lo mismo, que no hay constancia y que hiciera lo que yo quisiera… (se supone que tengo permanencia, yo ya les dije la otra vez que si no cumplen ellos el contrato, éste queda automáticamente anulado legalmente y por lo tanto su permanencia es totalmente papel mojado. Pero les da totalmente igual, contestan con la indiferencia de un funcionario.

Pero es que este no ha sido el único problema, toda y digo toda la experiencia de “su” servicio de ADSL a sido realmente traumática y hablo como Usuario Avanzado, que conoce los procedimientos y la tecnología. He tenido que perder innumerables horas al teléfono y días de falta de servicio para el que quiera saber le cuento… (quien que no quiera aburrirse con incompetencias varias puede saltar directamente al ultimo párrafo)

Cuando lo contraté como dije la oferta era de ADSL Máxima velocidad (20 megas o 6 megas en zonas con baja cobertura, vivo en el mismísimo centro de mi ciudad, pero aquí no llega… no es Madrid … je) y con teléfono fijo asociado por VoIP (lo que significa que el teléfono es convencional pero va conectado directamente al router y no a la roseta y depende del SIM que esta montado en el módem 3G USB que esta en el router. (al contrario de la instalación antigua de Vodafone en la que el teléfono fijo llevaba un SIM propio dentro). Pues bien, el problema empieza cuando llega el paquete. Resulta que viene con un equipo de los antiguos de Vodafone de los que necesitan la SIM dentro para funcionar y no disponen de conexión RJ11… Genial, primera queja, tras llamar y pasarme con unos y otros y tener que estar durante varias horas explicando una y otra vez el problema, por fin conseguimos que alguien lo entienda y me manden otro teléfono, pero por supuesto ya no tenían el modelo que habíamos solicitado pues estaba agotado… ¬¬ Entre tanto, mandaban mensajes de activación y mensajes de confirmación, pero al numero de la SIM que estaba en el router, por lo que no podíamos confirmar esos mensajes, con lo fácil que habría sido mandarlos a mi numero móvil de toda la vida con Vodafone… pero no, mejor mandarlos a una SIM que esta en un módem inoperativo… muy lógico he inteligente por su parte.

Pero no os lo perdáis, que esto no es todo, lo más surrealista son los 3 meses que me he pasado quejándome durante la primavera, a atención al cliente de que el router no iba correctamente puesto que el Wifi se iba al carajo cada 2 por 3, teniendo que reiniciar el router una y otra vez como única solución para salir del paso, con lo que 2 móviles y 2 portátiles se quedaban sin conexión aleatoriamente. Además también se quedaba sin servicio el teléfono fijo conectado al router. Según Vodafone seguramente era de la deficiente conexión de ADSL de Telefónica-Movistar o a la instalación interna en la casa… Pues no señor, les recuerdo que he sido técnico, hay un PC conectado directamente al router y el router conectado directamente a la roseta, y salvo alguna ocasión que se ha cortado el ADSL, lo que fallaba era el Wifi, no el ADSL. De hecho, aunque se corte el ADSL no tiene porque desaparecer la conexión Wifi, no navegarás, pero el portátil o móvil seguirá conectado al router si el fallo fuera del ADSL… Tras numerosas llamadas y varias horas perdidas tanto de conexión, trabajo y reinicios, así como de las propias llamadas, consigo que me manden un router “nuevo” … jejeje… sabéis que me mandaron? Un viernes, me llega el mensajero con un paquete que resulta que tiene un router dentro, claramente usado, evidentemente para entregarlo le tengo que entregar yo el otro que “mal funciona” pero no solo eso, resulta que cuando ya se ha ido el mensajero, conecto el router y resulta que está totalmente MUERTO, no se enciende ninguna luz ni hace absolutamente nada. ¡Me acaban de dejar todo el fin de semana desconectado! Pruebo con un voltímetro la fuente de alimentación del router, da sus 12v pertinentes, luego es el router el que esta MUERTO, MUERTO. No solo es usado (y no nuevo como debería) si no que encima ni siquiera se han molestado en probarlo enchufándolo a un miserable enchufe (ya no hablo de hacerle pruebas de funcionamiento, ancho de banda, radiofrecuencia, etc.) CHAPUCEROS e IMPRESENTABLES. Evidentemente este router lo recogieron de alguna desinstalación, por avería o similar, o sabe Dios donde, pero es que no pasan ningún test de pruebas, ni siquiera conectarlo a 220v a ver si se enciende una miserable luz, algo que sabría hacer un niño de 8 años… ¬¬
Nuevas llamadas, nuevas quejas, mil explicaciones, para que por fin entiendan que lo que han mandado se parece más a un ladrillo usado que a un router nuevo y no sirve ni como pisapapeles… la semana siguiente por fin llega otro router (usado) que al menos funciona… Y tras quejarnos amargamente, parece que por fin nos han hecho algo de caso y como compensación nos va a dar 2 meses de conexión gratis… ¡Qué amables diréis!… Pues mira tú por donde que ahora eso nos lleva al nuevo problema… con esos 2 meses gratis borran el anterior descuento “permanente” del 50%…

A todo esto hay que añadir, que desde que les quité las líneas del móvil en primavera ya no tengo acceso a la facturación On Line y justamente han dejado de mandarme las facturas por correo ordinario (qué conveniente casualidad). También me he quejado de esto y también han hecho oídos sordos, pero poseo las anteriores facturas con el correspondiente descuento… así que si, tengo pruebas de tener dicho descuento… Vodafone, Incompetentes o interesados? ¿Qué es peor?

He intentado ponerme en contacto con alguno de sus representantes On Line (CEO) en algún comentario de otros clientes que se quejaban, pero como yo aún no había publicado nada, parece que no dio importancia a mis quejas, porque del otro cliente sí dijo de ponerse en contacto con él… (parece que deben de pensar que, si no tienes blog donde publicar estas cosas no eres nadie).

Resumiendo:
Evidentemente, por ahora he procedido a devolverles el recibo de agosto, intenté devolver el recibo de julio pero no he podido porque entre una cosa y otra, en esta semana han pasado las 8 semanas de plazo para devolverlo (desde fecha de emisión) … Evidentemente ellos lo sabían y han jugado con el tema… Veremos ahora que llega el de septiembre… ¿Hay otros procedimientos? Evidentemente, procedimientos engorrosos que llevan meses y buenas horas de mi tiempo, aparte de las horas que ya he perdido con ellos al teléfono, con eso juegan ellos, pues yo también juego mis cartas. Para empezar sus listas de morosos no sirven absolutamente para nada, hoy por hoy media España esta en esas listas por mejores o peores motivos. En donde trabajo igual que en el resto de empresas españolas, cuando un cliente no esta de acuerdo con una factura rápidamente proceden a devolverla, y si el tema no se soluciona cordialmente, normalmente te quedas sin cobrarla y punto. Pero ellos tienen legiones de abogados con los que intimidarte, pues que me intimiden por 80 euros, me voy a reír un rato. Yo mismo les dije que si no cumplen lo pactado, su contrato de permanencia es papel mojado y tomaría estas medidas, (incluso publicarlo por Internet) y les da totalmente igual…

Si lo quieren arreglar, estoy perfectamente dispuesto a pagar lo que corresponde, ósea, ese 50% del ADSL más el consumo en llamadas, pero ni un céntimo mas de eso… (y teniendo en cuenta que ya cobraron sin remedio el mes de julio 44 Euros sin descuentos) todo depende de si lo quieren arreglar rápido y pronto, o mal y tarde…

Si la cosa sigue por el mismo camino de pasotismo, buscaré otro rato para publicar mis últimas experiencias con mis líneas de móvil antes de quitárselas a Vodafone…

28 respuestas a Vodafone, otros estafadores más…

  1. Pedro Piquero dice:

    Uff, vodafone, vodafone. Mi novia tuvo un problema similar con las facturas de vodafone. Según ellos tenía un descuento que le permite llamarme “gratis” (entre comillas porque en realidad paga mensualmente 20-25 euros por ello). Y misteriosamente durante 3-4 meses dejaron de llegar las facturas al domicilio.

    Quejas, quejas y mas quejas y cuando llegan se estuvieron cobrando 80-100 € cada mes. Pero para, que lo más bonito es que le cobraban su fijo y el fijo de otra persona que no sabes ni que numero es.

    Aún con todo no ha querido cambiar de compañía, y mira que le he insistido que eso no se debe de permitir y que ha sido un robo muy descarado.

    Ahora que cuando sea, no cambio y les doy viento yo y cuando pueda ella también.

    P.D. Te habría contestado en Google+ que es donde lo vi, pero no me permitía contestar. Un saludo y suerte con la robo-compañia.

    • Orlok dice:

      1º Gracias por el apoyo Pedro Piquero,
      2º En G+ tengo configurada una política restrictiva que solo permite comentarios de “círculos ampliados” o lo que es lo mismo de gente que esta en los círculos de la gente que yo tengo en mis círculos, lo tengo así para evitar Spammers y Trolls, pero permite conocer gente nueva, siempre que tengamos contactos comunes, lamentablemente se pierde algún comentario interesante de gente como tu, pero es que no encontré otra forma de limitar un poco el tema…

  2. manuti dice:

    Suerte, retwiteado y +1 en G+
    me fui de vomistar tras 10 años y aguanté 2 en robafone, no volveré

  3. Fernando dice:

    Tienes el blog de móviles vodafone para repostear esto, a ver si haciéndolo público allí te hacen más caso. También deberías plantear la queja en la web del ministerio que hay habilitada para estos temas. Hace falta pasta y si la queja prospera, les pueden multar “generosamente”. Te lo digo con conocimiento de causa. Hace un tiempo, la tontería de “estafa” de una operadora por la cantidad de 8 € y algo le costó unos millones en una multa.

    Suerte y ánimo.

    • Orlok dice:

      Seguramente lo haga, Gracias Fernando!
      de momento el CEO de Vodafone en Twitter a respondido y dice estar con el tema, les dejare un par de días de margen y si no seguiré moviendo el tema en diversas webs😉

  4. Manolo dice:

    Yo he tenido alguna cosa con ellos que si la contase no te la creerías.

    La ley dice que tienes 3 meses de plazo para presentar una queja formal ante Vodafone. Te asignarán un numero de reclamación (guardalo bien). Tienen un mes de plazo para contestarte, si no lo hacen o no estas conforme con la respuesta, tienes otros 3 meses para presentar la reclamación en una oficina de consumo (creo que ahora se puede hacer telematicamente).

    A mi me ha funcionado. Todos deberíamos hacerlo, para que los organismos publicos encargados de controlar estas estafas esten al tanto de lo que empresas como Vodafone están haciendo en su cara.

    Suerte y un saludo.

  5. elcucas dice:

    Yo acabo de ganarles en consumo.
    Te aconsejo que acudas a tu centro de consumo, a mediación, y que expongas tu caso. No te acojones ante el aluvión de cartas de despachos de abogados y listas de morosos, son para asustarte pero mete en tu reclamación de consumo la petición de que te borren de todas esas listas.

    En mi caso fue por un intento de cobrar una permanencia que nunca tuve y vodafone ni se molestó en presentar en consumo las pruebas de esa supuesta permanencia. No guardan las grabaciones ni se molestan en recupararlas.

    Animo y no te desanimes, son unos ladrones y en consumo lo saben, así que casi seguro que les ganas.

    • Orlok dice:

      si, conozco al menos 2 o 3 casos cercanos, todos ganados por clientes, pero aun así en uno de ellos Vodafone no les pago nada después de años. claro que al menos ya tampoco puede reclamar nada al cliente.
      Pero no pienso acobardarme, eso lo tengo claro😉

  6. miguel angel dice:

    Sin lugar a dudas, vodafone chorizos y como ellos no doy más explicaciones ladrones …..

  7. Versionitis Moderada dice:

    Pues estaremos atentos a la segunda parte de tu odisea, pues todas las operadoras son igual de mier..

  8. Hola a todos, creo que soy una estafada más de vodafone, en septiembre de este año me ofrecieron un movil que me interesó, les dejo claro que no quiero internet, solo me interesa el wifi que es lo que voy a utilizar, aceptan y todo perfecto, mi sorpresa es cuando recibo el extracto de mi banco ( desde que cambié de movil vodafone no me mandan la factura ) y veo el importe, sorprendida llamo a la compañia y me dice la operadora que no me cobran internet, que es de una linea que manda mensajes y me los cobra a mi, como es posible eso ??, me sigue diciendo que sin darme cuenta he dado mis datos , que mande un mensaje al nº 5120 con la palabra BAJA y que lo haga rapido, pues así lo hago pero el contestador de mi telefono pone textualmente: ” El mensaje que has enviado a 5120 no se ha entregado, Comprueba que la dirección sea correcta e intenta enviar el mensaje de nuevo”, entro en la pagina para ver la factura y todo son conexiones a internet, a horas que no puedo conectarme por que estoy durmiendo, como es posible ??, vuelvo a llamar y nadie me da solución, lo unico que he conseguido es poner una reclamación, no se si ir a mi banco y dar orden de que no me paguen más facturas de vodafone, no estoy dispuesta a pagar algo que no consumo.
    Tengo que aclarar que solo he mandado algunos whatsapp, espero vuestros consejos, os doy las gracias por anticipado.

  9. MARIA dice:

    Hola, me ha pasado igual pero hasta peor!!!! Me di de baja en vodafone el 13/7/2010…les envie un fax y les pague. Tambien di orden a mi banco bbva para que no les pasase mas recibos…lo controle un par de meses (hasta septiembre) y parecia todo solucionado. Hoy 21/01/2013 he descubierto que desde octubre de 2010 hasta hoy me han estado cobrando 41 euros cada mes!!!! Me deben x lo tanto 1000 y pico euros. El bbva me ha dicho que les pagaban xq emitian el recibo a nombre de otra empresa asociada a vodafone con otro cif. Hoy he ido a la oficina del consumidor y voy a presentar todas las pruebas que dispongo. SON UNA PANDILLA DE CHORIZOS RASTREROS. ABAJO ROBAFONE.

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